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A Collection of Sets
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Galkapryme
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By Galkapryme 2024-06-26 17:44:37 Link|Quote|Reply
(UPDATE: Cleaned up in-work version can be found here https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Community_Dragoon_Guide)
Herein lies my humble collection of engaged sets. Weaponskill sets are in-work; but I am lacking in many of the weapons (I primarily use Gae Buide and Naegling). I will also update with idle sets at a later time. Coiste, Gleti's and Nyame gear assumes R25 or 30. Unity +1 gear assumes R15.
A Personal Note:
I build multiple niche sets for various reasons, but mostly based on what I feel like that day. I don't always aim for what people regard as BiS, mainly because I struggle to build DRG sets that strike the perfect balance between STP, X-hit, DT, PDL, and Haste, especially when you consider the Wyvern, too.
I also built sets for with and without the Wyvern, since some end game content can kill a Wyvern before the recast timer is up to recall it.
The sets do not include the weapon since we all play with different weapons in different scenarios. Assume you can ignore the grip if using Naegling.
I welcome constructive criticism. In fact...I welcome the haters and flamers too; I know some of you just can't help yourselves. I'm really just trying to be somewhat helpful in providing an updated set list for DRG.
WITHOUT WYVERN:
| ItemSet 396046 Base Set: Set that seeks to strike a moderate balance between X-Hit, STP, DT, and Haste. Imperfect, and not regularly used. Cape here is DA. | ItemSet 396047 X-Hit Set: Focuses on multi-hit (quad attack, triple attack, & double attack). This works because there's some good STP mixed in. Cape here is DA. Capped Gear Haste. QA: 3 TA: 13 DA: 44 (51 and 54 with Stage 4 and 5 Gae Buide, Respectively) | ItemSet 396048 STP Set: Focuses primarily on STP. ML 50 DRG subbing SAM gets 20 STP as a trait. Cape here is STP. STP: 101 (81 from gear) |
| ItemSet 396049 Acc Set: Focuses on max accuracy. Cape here is Acc +30, DEX +20. | ItemSet 396050 PDT (DT) Set: This is actually a capped DT set (all 3 forms). Cape can be DT or PDT...doesn't really matter. But since most players can at least get within 5 of DT cap, I usually go for the DT 5 on capes. | ItemSet 396051 MEVA Set: Focuses on Magic Evasion. Same set can be used effectively with Wyvern since Nyame has pet stats. May want to swap a couple accessories, or keep the Wyvern Lv. + gear. Cape here is EVA/M.EVA. |
WITH WYVERN:
| ItemSet 396052 Base set with Wyvern out. | ItemSet 396053 Multi-hit set with Wyvern out. | ItemSet 396056 PDT set with Wyvern out. | ||||||
Jump Set
ItemSet 396058
Swap in Peltast's Cuissots +3 for Spirit and Soul Jump.
Weaponskill Sets (no buff, Aftermath, or hybrid modifiers - adjust as needed for AM, PDT, Acc, capped Attack, etc.)
| ItemSet 393996 Diarmuid/Camlann's Torment: STR/VIT based WS. Elements: Transfixion/Scission/Grav (Diarmuid), Light/Frag (Camlann's) | ||
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Galkapryme
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By Galkapryme 2024-06-27 11:23:28 Link|Quote|Reply
I'll clean this up or make upload into BGWiki community guide since I can't seem to get the tables right here.
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By Genoxd 2024-06-27 17:12:36 Link|Quote|Reply
Might I kindly ask that you exclude any non-BiS sets from community guides or at least put a giant bold disclaimer next to each on-BiS set. I assume there are many like me that are often lazy for most jobs and just look up what's in the guides.
By Ragnarok.Creaucent 2024-06-27 18:17:09 Link|Quote|Reply
Some other DRG endgame sets for each Polearm since things have happened recently ill throw them in here.
Trishula
TP(glass)
ItemSet 396085
Stardiver attack uncapped
ItemSet 396074
Stardiver attack capped
ItemSet 396076
Ryunohige
TP(glass)
ItemSet 396086
Drakesbane attack uncapped
ItemSet 396078
Drakesbane attack capped
ItemSet 396079
Rhongomiant
TP(glass)
ItemSet 396087
Camlann's Torment attack uncapped
ItemSet 396080
Camlann's Torment attack capped
ItemSet 396081
DT set
ItemSet 396088
Jump/High/Soul
ItemSet 396083
Spirit Jump
ItemSet 396084
Savage Blade.....
ItemSet 396082
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By Galkapryme 2024-06-27 19:53:12 Link|Quote|Reply
Genoxd said: »
Might I kindly ask that you exclude any non-BiS sets from community guides or at least put a giant bold disclaimer next to each on-BiS set. I assume there are many like me that are often lazy for most jobs and just look up what's in the guides.
Will-do. This is going to be a long labor of love.
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By Galkapryme 2024-06-27 19:54:01 Link|Quote|Reply
Ragnarok.Creaucent said: »
Some other DRG endgame sets for each Polearm since things have happened recently ill throw them in here.
Trishula
TP(glass)
ItemSet 396085
Stardiver attack uncapped
ItemSet 396074
Stardiver attack capped
ItemSet 396076
Ryunohige
TP(glass)
ItemSet 396086
Drakesbane attack uncapped
ItemSet 396078
Drakesbane attack capped
ItemSet 396079
Rhongomiant
TP(glass)
ItemSet 396087
Camlann's Torment attack uncapped
ItemSet 396080
Camlann's Torment attack capped
ItemSet 396081
DT set
ItemSet 396088
Jump/High/Soul
ItemSet 396083
Spirit Jump
ItemSet 396084
Savage Blade.....
ItemSet 396082
Thank you. I can add that to the Community guide as I work on it, and credit you for your input.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2024-06-27 20:52:23 Link|Quote|Reply
Galkapryme said: »
Thank you. I can add that to the Community guide as I work on it, and credit you for your input.
I would recommend building the guide on your own rather than putting other people's sets in there. This way if you ever get weewy mad at a group of people you can delete the guide with impunity. LPT
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By Galkapryme 2024-06-27 22:35:02 Link|Quote|Reply
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Galkapryme said: »
Thank you. I can add that to the Community guide as I work on it, and credit you for your input.
I would recommend building the guide on your own rather than putting other people's sets in there. This way if you ever get weewy mad at a group of people you can delete the guide with impunity. LPT
Put that SpicyRyan on it?
By Ragnarok.Creaucent 2024-06-28 08:50:37 Link|Quote|Reply
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Galkapryme said: »
Thank you. I can add that to the Community guide as I work on it, and credit you for your input.
I would recommend building the guide on your own rather than putting other people's sets in there. This way if you ever get weewy mad at a group of people you can delete the guide with impunity. LPT
I honestly don't care what he does with them they are only sets. Ill still have them saved in my itemsets for people to look through if they need it.
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By Galkapryme 2024-06-28 12:37:58 Link|Quote|Reply
Withholding judgment on some of the weaponskill sets until I can do more extensive testing. I know what's been posted over time, but going with R25 Path B Nyame and some different accessories has served me better than some of the X-hit weaponskill sets. It's a relatively negligible amount, but still...
Stardiver, for example, I'm hitting for about 1-1.5K more same scenario, same mob, same buffs (including Diarmuid aftermath), same 3K TP.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2024-06-28 12:43:26 Link|Quote|Reply
Galkapryme said: »
Stardiver, for example, I'm hitting for about 1-1.5K more same scenario, same mob, same buffs (including Diarmuid aftermath), same 3K TP.
Sample size?
Using DPS simulator (1500-2100 TP, Stardiver) for your sets.
Creau set:
ItemSet 396076
WSavg: 62,932
Total DPS: 11,203
Your set:
ItemSet 393996
WSavg: 53,791
Total DPS: 9,737
I should clarify: I used Trishula for both sets, so as to just compare the WS sets not the weapons. I tried plugging in Gae Buide for another comparison but the WSavg plummeted so...don't use Gae Buide for Stardiver, even with AM3 up it's significantly worse.
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By Galkapryme 2024-06-28 13:39:09 Link|Quote|Reply
Before I post what I believe to be an optimal set for Stardiver (sans Trish, because I only have Gae Buide), what do people with Trish usually hit for (average range)?
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By Asura.Warmoose 2024-07-01 14:32:13 Link|Quote|Reply
That's wildly dependent on the mob, buffs, etc. Stardiver is always the most inconsistent ws(across mob types) for me
Lay down some parameters and I'll tell ya when I'm home
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By Felgarr 2024-07-01 15:53:08 Link|Quote|Reply
Please include augments on Ambu capes. Kkthx.
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(UPDATE: Cleaned up in-work version can be found here https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Community_Dragoon_Guide)
Herein lies my humble collection of engaged sets. Weaponskill sets are in-work; but I am lacking in many of the weapons (I primarily use Gae Buide and Naegling). I will also update with idle sets at a later time. Coiste, Gleti's and Nyame gear assumes R25 or 30. Unity +1 gear assumes R15.
A Personal Note:
I build multiple niche sets for various reasons, but mostly based on what I feel like that day. I don't always aim for what people regard as BiS, mainly because I struggle to build DRG sets that strike the perfect balance between STP, X-hit, DT, PDL, and Haste, especially when you consider the Wyvern, too.
I also built sets for with and without the Wyvern, since some end game content can kill a Wyvern before the recast timer is up to recall it.
The sets do not include the weapon since we all play with different weapons in different scenarios. Assume you can ignore the grip if using Naegling.
I welcome constructive criticism. In fact...I welcome the haters and flamers too; I know some of you just can't help yourselves. I'm really just trying to be somewhat helpful in providing an updated set list for DRG.
WITHOUT WYVERN:
| ItemSet 396046 Base Set: Set that seeks to strike a moderate balance between X-Hit, STP, DT, and Haste. Imperfect, and not regularly used. Cape here is DA. | ItemSet 396047 X-Hit Set: Focuses on multi-hit (quad attack, triple attack, & double attack). This works because there's some good STP mixed in. Cape here is DA. Capped Gear Haste. QA: 3 TA: 13 DA: 44 (51 and 54 with Stage 4 and 5 Gae Buide, Respectively) | ItemSet 396048 STP Set: Focuses primarily on STP. ML 50 DRG subbing SAM gets 20 STP as a trait. Cape here is STP. STP: 101 (81 from gear) |
| ItemSet 396049 Acc Set: Focuses on max accuracy. Cape here is Acc +30, DEX +20. | ItemSet 396050 PDT (DT) Set: This is actually a capped DT set (all 3 forms). Cape can be DT or PDT...doesn't really matter. But since most players can at least get within 5 of DT cap, I usually go for the DT 5 on capes. | ItemSet 396051 MEVA Set: Focuses on Magic Evasion. Same set can be used effectively with Wyvern since Nyame has pet stats. May want to swap a couple accessories, or keep the Wyvern Lv. + gear. Cape here is EVA/M.EVA. |
WITH WYVERN:
| ItemSet 396052 Base set with Wyvern out. | ItemSet 396053 Multi-hit set with Wyvern out. | ItemSet 396056 PDT set with Wyvern out. | ||||||
Jump Set
ItemSet 396058
Swap in Peltast's Cuissots +3 for Spirit and Soul Jump.
Weaponskill Sets (no buff, Aftermath, or hybrid modifiers - adjust as needed for AM, PDT, Acc, capped Attack, etc.)
| ItemSet 393996 Diarmuid/Camlann's Torment: STR/VIT based WS. Elements: Transfixion/Scission/Grav (Diarmuid), Light/Frag (Camlann's) | ||
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